tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21310933.post3799736923639080534..comments2024-02-20T11:12:17.817+01:00Comments on Insatiable Hee: I like it in my own way, thank you very muchUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21310933.post-16138718473372482252010-10-08T12:27:22.365+02:002010-10-08T12:27:22.365+02:00If there had been a male campaign like that I woul...If there had been a male campaign like that I wouldn't have found it much better. What could it have been? Where I'd like to have beer/whiskey/sex?<br /><br />The fact that I cannot think of a similarly stereotyped male accessory/item right now says a lot about how women are forced into this character of "the funny other" with handbags, lipsticks and cupcakes.<br /><br />About the female eunuch. I really think women SHOULD express their sexuality. As much and as openly as men are allowed to - and more sincerely (many many men are not happy in their role as sexual predators). But do you think this campaign is about strong sexuality and sexual liberation?<br /><br />Actually it's about handbags and heterosexual men's sexual thoughts. Not about strong women and not about breast cancer. And that's my problem with it.<br /><br />I'd have found a statement like "I really like to have sex on stairs/in changing rooms/office toilets/park benches" much more liberating than the current "Giggle, it's not really about sex but about handbags and breast cancer". So please don't get me wrong. I just dislike the half-hearted sexual allusion and the role men play in this campaign.<br /><br />And yes, the campaign has now got so much attention (and raised very little awareness I must say). Quite a PR genius the person behind it must be.<br /><br />You mentioned racism in your post. That's something I want to write about soon. I don't think racism towards Asians is being discussed enough.Christianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13059455785796958370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21310933.post-9464336166157156662010-10-08T12:11:30.514+02:002010-10-08T12:11:30.514+02:00oh another thing, I am well known in my close grou...oh another thing, I am well known in my close group of friends to make these sexual innuendo jokes (all the time), and never meant as "girls gone wild", making myself as an object way. Actually, I think me (and some other friends who are similar) are helping pave the way for many guys to think, girls are/can be very comfortable about sex(sexual issues), too - oh yeah.. and be funny. (which is another sterotype I want to abolish!) I do not make light of <i>my sex</i> or myself, but just <b>SEX</b> itself!!(which I think is what alot of the people who participated were doing as well).insatiable heehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12852694245421329456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21310933.post-63930371565885241702010-10-08T12:05:30.640+02:002010-10-08T12:05:30.640+02:00Hey Khrys/Chris? thanks for the comment/reply?. I ...Hey Khrys/Chris? thanks for the comment/reply?. I really like your arguments and am happy that there is also another addition for our fight against sexism+homophobia+racism!! :-D <br />Btw, I am also very much for the queer movement. <br />But one thing, I am not sure if this whole thing was for "hetrosexual males" as you point out. I see it much more like a joke for some women->spreading to wider sphere (where they realised what the previous status updates were). And yes men were the ones who didn’t know as well. But the problem of men being aroused by such comments and thinking women are just sex objects…. Is this a problem of women, women who wrote these status updates? OR is it the problem of men with such ideas? Why is it okay for men to think that way, and women should be punished for writing anything which could have sexual innuendo, or that could potentially arouse someone (not just men but also women!!). Would we say the same thing if men were to have done such things? Or would we have said, “oh… boys… haha”. Also by punishing women for such things has the danger of pushing society back to its prude/conservative “female eunuch” state. Also, what I really dislike most about the “you are objectifying yourself” comment or “Girls gone wild fantasy” point, is that in both scenarios, women are projected somewhat as weak ignorant beings who could not have thought of this or are victims, who need protection – this patriarchical idea is what gets me more mad than anything else (in general I mean). I think women/we have the power to take this into their own way/own ideas, and could either not participate or participate in their own interpretation (which I must say many of my proud feminist friends did and had fun). But thank you so much for the comment and its great to have these discussions, and I am thinking perhaps the campaign was made by a ultra smart person, who foresaw these discussions ahead of time, and wanted to really bring that forward… (but again, I think it was quite silly, and understand how you see it –awareness issue etc as well!)insatiable heehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12852694245421329456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21310933.post-65128702175754561732010-10-08T10:57:38.902+02:002010-10-08T10:57:38.902+02:00Hi Hee!
I really should blog more because it'...Hi Hee!<br /><br />I really should blog more because it's much more about articulating and listening than just getting short-term attention (as on twitter, facebook).<br /><br />I agree with all you are saying and I would even go further in terms of female sexuality. I believe it's not only time/necessary for women to become more sexually confident and articulate but to take the next step and assume the predatory role. <br /><br />Just like you, I cannot live in a sexist society because sexism mostly equals homophobia (i.e. aggressive behaviour towards me and my partner). In a sexist society men are the ones who make sexual choices and have the right to judge and evaluate women as they wish. Being confronted with men who tear down this paradigm (i.e. judge their looks and lust over them) makes sexist men uncomfortable and aggressive. That's why women have to join in as well. It's a common fight against sexism and homophobia. So go for it!<br /><br />Having said this I don’t think this campaign does women any favours in this fight (and breast cancer awareness). First of all “I like it on the stairs” is not a confident sexual statement, especially when the escape clause is “I only meant my handbag”. If you want to talk about sex, talk about sex. <br /><br />Second, I still think the campaign is sexist because its success depends on the sexual confirmation from (heterosexual) men. It may create a feeling of belonging and sorority, which is great, but all of this is just based on a common act of weak and self-conscious (escape clause) titillation of heterosexual men. Not the fact that participants talk about their sexuality is objectifying but that they use their sexuality in a cheap way ‘to get attention from the boys’.<br /><br />Is this campaign about creating solidarity among women? This is a worthy cause although I would try not to be exclusive. But if it is, is sexual innuendo the way to go? Do women have to create sexual thoughts from heterosexual men to get attention as a group? All at once? As many as possible? Does that send the right signals? To me, this sounds a bit like a “girls gone wild” fantasy created on Facebook – for heterosexual men. There must be a better way.<br /><br />And one last thought about what you said about the terms sexism, racism and feminism. I agree that people have to be careful when they want to get a point across not to put people off by using strong words. But I also believe that there is so much *ism around and I don’t want to save the word for the one serious cause when I can finally use it. The everyday racism and sexism are the ones people suffer from all the time and it’s important to speak up to make a change. It may get annoying and people may become tired (e.g. by my saying ‘heterosexual men’ all the time) but at least I have created some awareness and people will understand that there are some things which you cannot just say or do. And that’s all I want. Not change them but make everyday life a bit less *ist.<br /><br />I want to hear more about your fight against racism and sexism.<br />ChristianChristianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13059455785796958370noreply@blogger.com